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does anyone have problems with getting axienty by getting symptoms that you feel you give yourself, like palpitations chest pain, this has been happening to me and now trying zispin to try and get my mind away from such distracting and I feel physically disabling symptoms, rationally I can't rationalise with myself anymore

I do this all the time.. Doing this to yourself is all part of the disorder. No one else is doing this too you. Your actions are what will distract you from yourself.

Hi rrats, welcome to the forum.

A lot of the symptoms you are describing are classic manisfestations of anxiety. I'm not sure what zispin is (is it a prescription drug?), and do you feel that it's calming you down a bit?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean when you say that "rationally, I can't rationalize with myself anymore." Are you feeling fuzzy from the zispin, or the anxiety?

Let us know how you're doing; we care.

thanks for replying, zispin is remeron a sedative antidepressant, not happy I got to this state to take them I will see a psychiatrist today for further evaulation. Had alot of misfortune recently that released a crisis in me tho I have somatised before I have never reached melting point. I do not want to do this and trying many avenues to quit the anxiety which is causing many side effects such a chest pain and extra beats I can feel the release of panic that causes all this. Haven't even slept on this sedative for 5 days. Really looking for a cure.

Am glad you are seeing your pdoc today; it's important to keep him/her informed of your condition. Not sleeping for 5 days is not good, I'm sure your pdoc will give you something to help.

Sometimes the AD's induce anxiety--your pdoc might want to take you off of it.

Sorry to hear about the crisis triggers--we've all been there, and have gotten through it (or actually, a lot of us are still striving to cope).

The chest pain and extra beats (palpitations) are very common, and they are very scary. But, if your cardiovascular system is in good shape, they are harmless physically, it's just the anxiety that provokes them can make it worse.

Good luck with your pdoc today, and let us know how it goes. We're here for you.

Hi Swingy

My Pdoc has labeled me as depressed, I think she me be slightly concerned as I get to see a cog anyalyst tommorow, I will be put on cipralex plus continue with Zispin which should be making me sleepy but isn't I will call to tomorrow if tonights sleep is disrupted

Hi Swingy

My Pdoc has labeled me as depressed, I think she me be slightly concerned as I get to see a cog anyalyst tommorow, I will be put on cipralex plus continue with Zispin which should be making me sleepy but isn't I will call to tomorrow if tonights sleep is disrupted

I'm glad that you got in to see the pdoc, and feel good about his referral to a cog anaylyst. If you're in a depresive epidisode and not sleeping, it could lead to bad times. Defintely inform them if you don't get the sleep you definitely need...sleep deprivation just makes it all worse.

Haven't heard aboutt cipralex either, it might be another AD? Keep good communication with your pdoc & tdoc---they are your lifeline out of this.

And of course, we are always here for you too.

I do hope you get some restful sleep tonight.

Just to let you know I did manage to sleep well last night, read a good self help book on thinking, which drifted me off. My cog therapist is so far very effective, with pratical illustrations of my anxiety given to me already, it's funny to think how talk and I believe this could lead to cure along with the meds, which I will not want to take for long, so less desperate and more optimistic today.

Just to let you know I did manage to sleep well last night, read a good self help book on thinking, which drifted me off. My cog therapist is so far very effective, with pratical illustrations of my anxiety given to me already, it's funny to think how talk and I believe this could lead to cure along with the meds, which I will not want to take for long, so less desperate and more optimistic today.

So very glad you were able to get some good sleep---it does wonder, doesn't it? Makes you see the next day in a more positive light.

The therapist won't keep you on meds long, they only tend to do so to relieve the intense anxiety, so they can then address techniques for coping and skills for lifetime help. Take them as your therapist prescibed, she will know when you are ready to come off of them. Once you lower you level of anxiety, it is much easier to deal with on a cognitive level.

Hope you sleep well again tonight, and am so very glad you are sounding optimistic. Keep the good thoughts....you will overcome this hurdle.

Hi everyone. Anxiety is by nature a somatic condition which causes you to somatize sensations (not symptoms) of anxiety. I say not symptoms simply because a symptom is a sign of 'physical' illness and none of you are physically ill! YOu have a behavioural condition which, by definition, menas that your subconscious physical commands which allow your body to function autonomically have been adjusted to function at a much higher than normal anxiety baseline. This produces sensations, thoughts and emotions of anxiety... BUT, it's not TRUE fear, its the sensation of fear... why? Because when there is nothing to be fearful of, TRUE fear cannot exist.

By obsessing about ones physical wellbeing and focusing on specific sensations etc, we somatize those sensations! It's simply the power of suggestion and is known medically to be the main cause of anxiety related physical sensations!

It's also known as operative conditioning - the ability for the subconscious to learn new behaviour by repitition.

None of you require medicine for this... how can medicine change behaviour? be sensible... physiologically, medicine can numb the sensations, it can asist with 'medical' conditions which require chemical changes in order to be eliminated... but if it can't stop you from picking your nose or smoking which are as instinctual or habitual as anxiety is, how is it going to stop your anxious habit?

Truly, this can't be the case. There is only one solution to anxiety disorders... it's what EVERY recovered anxiety sufferer has done and you will do it too eventaully, either by accident as many do, but it takes a while to fall into it by accident, or by consciously learning what it is and following that path.

Charles

rrats(anonymous)--keep in mind that the previous post is from a man who is selling a product to help people overcome anxiety and panic. It's interesting to ponder why he is constantly promoting his product on this forum.

On the other hand, a lot of people have sworn by it, so you decide what works best for you. I've personally never tried his method, so could not either recommend nor recommend it.

In my personal opionion, anxiety-medication can provide short-term relief which will then help you cope with learning new behaviors and techniques to overcome the disorder. You mentioned that your are working with a CBT, that has been extremely effective for many people, and I hope that it works for you. Your therapist will have you off the meds fairly quickly, as you learn new skills.

Good luck in your quest, and let me know how you're doing.