Mr Fixit
28-11-04, 11:07 PM
I have read so much on this amygdala and how it effects our panic levels. COuld anyone give me a brief overview of what it actually is?
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the amygdalaMr Fixit 28-11-04, 11:07 PM I have read so much on this amygdala and how it effects our panic levels. COuld anyone give me a brief overview of what it actually is? T-LAB 26-12-04, 01:11 PM the amygdala is like a switch in your brain that controls anxiety.. before you had anxiety it would only switch on in certain anxiety related situations (drivin test, exams) but if you suffer from anxiety this switch is constantly stuck in the on position.. it is the thing 100% responsible for anxiety, panic attack's.. peace cheers \ / T-LAB Supporter Susan 30-12-04, 05:21 PM Once again T-Lab this is exactly right. Effective anxiety treatments don't totally eradicate anxiety but instead they return the amygdala to the healthy levels which every person should have. This means that the fight of flight response will only be in the most appropriate of situations. Old_Anonymous_Members 11-02-05, 06:19 PM But how do you switch it off please? elliott 22-02-05, 11:17 PM i think we are all trying to find that out mate Charles Linden 23-02-05, 10:50 PM The Amygdala responds only to behavioural and emotional input. In other words, the Amygdala is 'programmed' by our activities and experiences. By behaving anxiously we programme the Amygdala through 'operant conditioning' (learning through repetition), to behave anxiously. In order to remove this anxious habit, we have to re-programme it to replace that habit with non-anxious reactions. We do this by practising being 'not anxious'. Eventually, the Amygdala adopts that behaviour as 'normal'. The last post mentioned Neil Slade. His ideas are centred more around self improvement rather than anxiety elimination. My method teaches how to achieve this simply whilst being supported by our counsellors. Hope this helps. Charlie Peter 25-02-05, 08:13 PM Ok, let's forget about Neil Slade, but I then still see no reason to have my posts about him being systematically removed. Maybe people here would be too willing to try yet another method to get rid of their anxiety, and wasting time not succeeding. And maybe the admin deems it best to trust in the anxiety eliminator number one, Charles Linden, as we all adhere most credibility to and believe in his method to work. What mister Neil Slade does say is however still closely related to people with anxiety. The confidence factor, that THEY are in control. Which is in fact a big part of the panic attack eliminator of Charles Linden. Here is what he says, and I literally quote him: "The main thing is to realize that YOU are in CONTROL of your brain via your thoughts and actions. You control you, not the world. Once you realize this-- new YOU-niverse. Neil " The control he talks about, is mainly related to the amygdala, but in fact applies to anything. The difference between your method (Linden Method) and what Neil Slade offers, is that the latter person focuses on the brain and the amygdala directly, while The Linden Method is (a) covering more aspects and most of them related directly to anxiety and (b) working on reprogramming and training the amygdala and by that the brain less directly, which is a more practical approach that doesn't keep people thinking of their amygdala all the time. (and blaiming that 'thing' if it doesn't work, having a high risk of still being totally focused on their anxiety). The Linden Method is focused specifically on getting your mind AWAY from what you suffer from, which gives the amygdala a chance to calm itself down. That's why I say it's working indirectly. By that I do not mean it's also ineffective, I think rather the contrary. This method has a higher chance of succeeding, as it has a multi-fold of factors helping it. First of all this method is aimed at anxiety related 'illnesses'. This gives the confidence to the sufferer that it *IS* meant for him. Next he is bound to be convinced it will help him, by reading the life-story of Charles himself. It again *assures* him/her that all that what Charles suffered from, is and can be cured by this method, so it is bound to help him/her as well. Then there is the 9 pillars, which form the backbone of the method. They are one by one meant to get your attention away from what you are already giving too much time and energy, your anxiety, and by that credibility, credibility that will help you maintain the very unpleasant cycle of anxiety. I have bought it, 1 1/2 month ago. I did the visualization daily (which is the meta mnemonic programming part of his method), but have probably not focused enough on the nine pillars. I have social anxiety for most part, and am not cured of that yet. But the method in general has helped me, and I do adhere credibility to it. If this method does NOT work, then it is NOT because of the content. On the contrary, it is credible, it should work, it does work. This is for sure NOT a con. (I also called once with the UK support people once before buying it, on January the 5th 2005. They are real people.) Anyway, all that said, I still believe that the www.NeilSlade.Com website can offer that same realisation that is discussed in the Linden Method, that it is YOU who makes the anxiety, and YOU who controls it. Because once you succeed doing what Neil Slade talks about, and that is finding out that you DO control your brain and more specifically your amygdala, you will realize how POWERFUL you are to create your own world, your own thoughts, your own believes and your own responses to situations by the means of THOUGHT. This gives you confidence, which makes room for change. Just you have to understand that the Linden Method is indeed not the same as what Neil Slade offers, but the result could potentially be the same. So that's why I don't see why my posts about him are removed. Just the Linden Method is much more supportive towards the specific topic of anxiety, and gives you fundament, background and understanding, AND most importantly, how to handle it. It also gives you confidence that this method is the way to do things for u to be cured/healed. But once you finished the Linden Method, meaning, when u feel ur anxiety subsides permanently, you will REALIZE that it is your THOUGHTS about situations that have changed, the way you RESPOND to situations. And this realization, boys and girls, will be the SAME as when you actually get confident (by making it work) that you can control your brain and your amygdala as says Neil Slade. The reason I bought Linden, is cuz I felt more sure it is actually meant to help me with my social anxiety. Greetings, Peter. Jj 25-02-05, 08:33 PM Thanks peter, i found that really helpful. It's good to have an intellegent discussion on all subjects which may help us. Charles 25-02-05, 10:38 PM Peter, your postings were not removed because they link to Neil Slades website but becasue they link anywhere at all. I instructed my web techy to erase any blatant advertising and he took your link to Neil's website to be just that. I apologise for that and hope you weren't too deeply offended. I also thank you for the words about my method. You know where we are should you need us, if I am in the office I would like to talk. Regards Charles Peter 26-02-05, 02:02 AM Hi Charles, Thanks, I almost thought there was a secret plot against anything competing with your method haha. I see and I don't mind, moderation is a matter of interpretation. I just felt like giving a little resistance to the removal by explaining why I saw it relevant. I find you very plain and honest, and by that, people will always recognize who is a REAL person and who has a hidden agenda. That's also why I bought your method, it seemed fair and sound and it is (I say after having bought it). Have fun and live now. Supporter Kate 06-03-05, 09:08 PM its nice to see an approachable person like you charles. It often is the case where you wonder whether they truly exist! thanks for the time you are taking to answer the posts, and thank you too peter you are a very valuable member x Peter 07-03-05, 12:11 AM Weee, nice. Well, in fact, in the UK a wee is something else I believe? Here it is an expression of wee-ness though, hehe. neilslade 23-09-07, 06:44 AM Lets try one more time..... One of Mr. Linden's customers informed me that I was mentioned in the forum, so what the heck--- here I am. Just to be perfectly clear, I believe there are as many valid methods to control one's emotions as there are brains in craniums--- and each brain will have a universe of optional methods to choose from. My work for the past 30 years, give or take a few, has been to explore the relationship between the experience of one's personal world, and the hardware situated between one's ears, i.e. the physical reality of brain function as it relates to emotional experience. Anxiety is natural a part of the emotional vocabulary, and so I discuss it in my own work, along with other emotions. I think if people find The Linden Method attractive, and if it works for them-- that's fantastic. There's more than one way to stroke a cat, and I would never insist that there is ONE WAY to do anything, especially when it comes to brain control, and emotion modification. I have my own personal preferences, and so does every other man, woman, dog, and cat. In the end, people need to look at their options, decide if it feels right, if it makes sense logically, and go from there- go forward, or turn around and take another road. One day, something works, and another day, the same thing fails. One day, it fails, and a month later it works. It's an endless game of change and fine tuning your own brain and experience. I think the real key is to pay attention to what is going on behind your eyeballs, and to adjust, rather than to be a robot with static expectations and reactions. Later Neil |
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