Panic attacks , Anxiety Attacks Phobias and Anxiety

anybody else feel like this?

Me Vs ME
27-03-05, 06:14 PM
i know the question in the topic is pretty obvious considering what type of forum this is.

But like all people with axiety they tend to think there synptoms might be unique..........im a bad speller fyi :(

Anyway, i have allways had anxiety, sine i was a little kid, But for most of my life i refused to go on any sort of drug. Now im 23 and haveing the worst of anxiety that i can rember, every day is a fight just to get happy.

Im in the best point of my life right now, yet for some reason that seems to be the driving force for the strong onslaught of bad feelings. for the one time in my life things are going like they should and i can think of my self as a Great person. anyway my mind, seems to be detrimined not to let me feel like a good person. it makes me feel bad about things years in the past that have allready been resolved ect ect. as usal i cant let it go, or snap out of it.

maybe ill find relief from one thing for a couple days, then my mind goes looking for something else to make me feel bad, again i have no control. now the cycle has gotten so bad i feel like i lost all control over it.

All logical thinking has seemingly gone out the window..Even though i know that, i question it :shock: See i can tell myself not to worry about what it is im worrying about becuse of resaons A B and C...You would think that would make any normal person feel better right? well with me i Question if my logic is logic.

people would say you gotta trick your self.....WTF how do i do this? they say tell you self its not a big deal ect ect....Well thats great for 30 seconds till I remind my self that im tricking myself and my feeling of being happy or fake and based on only trickery. i catch my self tricking my self.

This is not just a one time ting....i have horrible fear of social settings, i get so stressed out i get rattled very easy. i cant seem to to relax ect ect. ive been like this for years now....Most times i have been able to deal with my "problems" it sucked but i was detreminded not to take med's at one point though a year ago i broke down and saw a doctor and he put me on paxil! woohooo. i stoped it after 2 weeks. And again i went on dealing with ym feelsing without help..The whole time it sucked.

Finaly now im ready to get some help and to go back and try some meds again. It's gotten to the point now where im not sleeping, i enjoy nothing or enjoy little, i eat little and sometimes feel like throwing up (infcat today i threw up), when i do sleep i sleep as long as possible to keep form having to feel like shit when i wake up.

and my body feels werid as well, on top of it being mentaly frustrateing to say the least my body also changes, my stomach gets knots in it..its like im feel guilty about something (i may not be but the feeling reminds me of feelings of guilt)

my family has horrible anxiety, my sister is OCD and is on paxil, same for my dad, depression claimed my moms life 7-8 months ago.

it feels like the feeling will never go away, like my name says it feels like im fighting myself, its like there is a side of me that is logical and happy, and he comes out for a couple hours here and there...Then there is the other side of me, wich beats the happy part of me down with a big fing hammer.

Anyway i wont make this any longer even though i could. all i know is my anxiety has taken a very unforgiveing turn that i have never seen before.

Anybody else out there? misorey loves company :wink:

Theresa
27-03-05, 07:30 PM
Hey, I know exactly how you feel. Like.. all of the sudden you're sitting there... you're fine.. then you're like.. OMG this isn't real... that tree is not real.. im insane.. im going crazy.. i can't deal.. then you're like.. ok it's ok.. then 15 minutes later.. you're insane again. It's so messed up.. its like.. you look at people walking on the street and think to yourself.. God.. they're normal.. what I wouldn't give to be that person who seems so relaxed...
The t hing that gets me is that my parents are like... just talk to your doctor.. you have anxieties.. there's nothing wrong with you blah blah..it's like.. stop trying to make believe you understand.. you dont.. there is no way anyone could understand this w/o having attacks, or being anxious..
I have recently stopped drinking. I take zoloft for my panic attacks and usually it works.. sometimes I can go a month w/o an attack.. but other times it's like a week long panic attack.. so I had a feeling that my excessive dirnking was not making things possible.. I haven't drank since Thursday night.. I guess if I was an alcoholic I'd be buggin out a whole hell of a lot mor than I am right now.. but I think a part of me is trying to convince myself that I am an alcoholic and that Im going to start shaking, or buggin out and run for the bottle.. God. I don't even know if I'm making sense right now...
Well, I hope you're feeling well right now. I'm actually going to call myd octor tomorrow to talk to him abo ut this an see if he can't recommend a therapist.. or someone for me to talk to... it helps to know there are other people out there. TAKE CARE!!
-Theresa

Me Vs ME
27-03-05, 11:21 PM
you look at people walking on the street and think to yourself.. God.. they're normal.. what I wouldn't give to be that person who seems so relaxed...



Yup for me its when im driving, im thinking "i bet that person in that car is hapy" then i mutter to my self for a couple of minutes :?

Old_Anonymous_Members
28-03-05, 04:36 PM
Doesn't that suck?? The only thing that makes meh appy to think... is that when I'm having those good days... I think ... (when I'm anxious) somebody was doing that to me yesterday.. ya know? We all have our anxieties...some worse than others... You can be the stronger person though by fighting them. They suck and can be pretty debilitating...but we must fight through them.. otherwise we'll all end up in straight jackets. :lol:

Old_Anonymous_Members
29-03-05, 03:03 AM
Hi I'm new here...Anyway, where do I start?

I have read all your experiences regarding Panic attacks and have to tell you all that I have suffered the exact same symtoms as you all have. I finf myself fighting myself over how the world began and death, more so my own. I sometimes feel like an alien been dropped from another planet and left to make of the world what I can without any education.

The thing I would like to ask these so called Doctors, (and if there is any out there who want to answer this question, feel free!!) is, has anyone taken the time to research this Panic attack Phenomenom? What I mean is years ago when people had Epilespy, they were stuck in a prison and forgotten about. Now, we have sympathy for these people and it's a subject that people train in how to deal with people who have it. In the future, are we going to look at Panic Attacks in the same light? I feel it is a mental thing. A chemical imbalance or something! One thing is for sure, I've never met any GP who canoffer true help to us apart from writing a scrip'. Writing a prescription is very dismissive in my eyes, as is Councelling and the likes. It makes me feel that you GP's just want to put us in that prison until society is willing to take note of this Panic problem and offer some serious into research and brain activity. If you are a GP outhere and this cap fits, then the 4-5 years worth of doctoring studies was worth it wasn't it? NOT!!

This Panic Phenomenom i've got is just plain old pissing me off now and I would like some serious research into what causes it in some people and not others. It's a far cry form having a panic attack that relates to some catastrophic event. These panic attacks I am talking about are a life changing problem. Do we control Panic Attacks or do they control us?? If you suffer with them, do we suffer for life?? No one seems to have any answers to my questions!! Thats why I call myself Dr Panic Attacks because I feel I can help myself just as much as any GP.

My Nan suffered with anxiety and PA, as does my dad. Is it an hereditry thing then??I've been told I'm highly strung and a control freak, does this have anything to do with it?? WHO THE FUCK KNOWS?????

One things for sure I am now 30 and there is no way I can see me dealing with this for the rest of my life..There has got to be a solution or at least a reason I can live with!

I sat across from a counsellor prescribed by my GP. She asked to run through my situation. I said to her, have you ever had a panic Attack? She said no, but has been dealing with other people in the same situation. So I said how can you help others if you dont know what shaking, deep and light breathing, feeling as close to death as possible, compulsive sweating etc is like? She said I can imagine. With that I walked out!!The NHS is ripping us off. We need help. If not for the problem, then understanding the problem. We are the new Epilepsy sufferers I feel, and when society stands up to recogise it maybe then we might get somewhere.

I'd love to hear peoples opinions of what I've said here.

lisa
29-03-05, 04:13 AM
Hi Dr Panic,
This can certainly make you angry. It does seem to run in families. The question is. Is it learned behaviour or is it the way people are wired. I think both are involved. Stress is a major factor. Is there a solution??
Absolutley!!!! I have studied it for years, read all the material as I have struggled with this since I was eight. I have had periods of freedom, the last being about eight years. I have children with it and a grandaughter who has is it since she was 5. they have tools I never had and therfore their experience isn't as intense
One of the best answers that I have seen comes from Charles Linden
His approach is Holistic and complete and works.
You Do not have to have this contol you any longer.
Not all counsellors are the same, find someone who has been through it themselves they are out there.
Lisa

CharlesL
29-03-05, 09:51 AM
Lisa, thanks for the vote of confidence.

I have spent over 12 years of my life researching anxiety disorder, OK, I'm not a scientist but I get phonecalls from scientists who want to tap me for info so I think I probably know the score. In fact, the NIMH released their research last year... the same findings that I released 7 years ago!

THIS IS THE TRUTH ABOUT ANXIETY DISORDER:

Anxiety disorder is NOT a mental illness, it's a behavioural condition created through what is called Opernat Conditioning. Anxiety sufferers don't have a genetic predisposition to the condition, they do, however, develop the condition more than those who don't have family members that are sufferers. WHY? Because they subconsciously copy the behaviour of the family member who suffers and those behavioural trates CAN cause anxiety to devlop.

Most anxiety sufferers feel better when their minds are occupied, why? Because anxiety isn't an illness, it is formed, stored and perpetuated behaviourally.

The CAUSE of anxiety disorders is the Amygdala, the anxiety thermostat in the brain. This organ regulates the level of anxiety. In normal people this remains constantly at the 'neutral' position till needed; then, after anxiety has been used to protect and prepare you for imminent danger, your anxiety level returns to neutral. If this happened repeatedly though, your Amygdala would 're-set' at a higher 'resting' level of anxiety. When this happens to such an extent that you experience constant anxiety, an anxiety disorder is born.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE!

So, whatever was the catalyst for your anxiety (bereavement, stress etc) is irrelevant, the CAUSE is the same... The Amygdala!

The ONLY way to correct an anxiety disorder is to 'undo' the changes that have been made in the reaction of the Amygdala. Medication can't do this... neither can hypnosis or ECT.

Anxiety MANAGEMENT is a farse... you don't need to manage anxiety you need to eliminate it and it can be done!

My research has been done as a result of treating over 20,000 people, two decades of personal suffering and thousands of hours researching.

Charles

Old_Anonymous_Members
29-03-05, 10:34 AM
Many apologies. I did not want to come across obnoxious(even though I probebly did), and thanks for your replies especially Charles.

I am very angry though about this situation I find myself in. I have been coping with Panic Attack for 15 years now and if I thought 15 years ago I would still be dealing with this I would have...Well I dont know. I just cant see myself coping with it for another 15 years which is why I want to sort it NOW!

My girlfriend actually found this site and told me to have a look as she trying to help me. It really affects our relationship even though I have her full support, but I dont want to be in this situation which why I battle with myself and ask WHY ME???I just want to lead a normal life (if there is one). I must admit it is good to air what I have got to say with others who suffer though. Funny thing is even though my Dad has got it, we cant speak about it because were worried that we take on each others effects by association. So I hit blank walls, because I'm to embarrassed to talk to others. Dont know why, stupid eh? Its affected my working life also. Many a time have I gone home due to feeling the effects of feeling panicy. Not even having one. Just scare of having one. When I do have one though it takes me out for about a week or so. No company will put up with that sort thing.

Another thing is that I can feel I could actually feel in my head and touch the part that makes me have this disorder.Actually touch it oin my brain. It's a funny tingling sensation. Dont know if anyone else has it, or am I just going nuts?

Wouldn't it be good if we could go and have a brain enema and it was sorted?? Keep replying anyone, it helps talking/typing about it!!

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